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20th Apr 2017, 12:00 PM
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Nobody 20th Apr 2017, 12:00 PM edit delete
Nobody
happy 4/20.
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JJ 20th Apr 2017, 12:04 PM edit delete reply
Oh no, I felt this one heavy. There is some serious heart weight when you have a conversation with your family after deciding to kill yourself. Your story telling is impecable. Thank you.
lucky 20th Apr 2017, 12:06 PM edit delete reply
how can you say "happy" 4/20 when ive been punched in the stomach by secondhand embarrassment and sadness,,, love how this comic touched on my aggressively specific fear regarding the moments before i commit suicide i
Guest 20th Apr 2017, 12:09 PM edit delete reply
the real weed was the drop-out update we read along the way
t. 20th Apr 2017, 12:15 PM edit delete reply
there is no happiness
but for real this is so like... i don't know what the word i'm looking for is but it's so upsetting to see sugar talk to her parents knowing that she won't see them again
Peach 20th Apr 2017, 12:15 PM edit delete reply
Sugar's mums are the best. I really like the way you did Sugar's facial expressions on this page!
grocer of despair 20th Apr 2017, 12:16 PM edit delete reply
I absolutely love this page - the feeling of exposure here, of being caught between two very different lives, and the awkwardness of trying to balance them...it's great that this is conveyed so precisely through the direction, while Sugar's 'performance' remains understated and natural.
89 20th Apr 2017, 12:44 PM edit delete reply
Ahhhhh I love how this scene looks like the cover page!
Guest 20th Apr 2017, 1:15 PM edit delete reply
Panels 6-10: me whenever I have to answer a phone
guest 20th Apr 2017, 1:28 PM edit delete reply
wow, someone mentioned on the last page that the page was a cool callback to the cover page, but now it's even more poignant. the thing that stands out most to me is sugar filling up the tank, and lola smoking a little ways away. i'll have to check their outfits too, but i wouldn't be surprised if they were similar, or even the same.
rhombus 20th Apr 2017, 2:26 PM edit delete reply
if they hadn't taken the wrong turn, they wouldn't have gotten this call... ouch
Guest 20th Apr 2017, 3:02 PM edit delete reply
It probably isn't important, but what que stion was Sugar's mom asking when Sugar answered "because she's trans"?
Nobody 20th Apr 2017, 3:02 PM edit delete reply
Nobody
her mom asked if she took any pictures.
Guest 20th Apr 2017, 3:49 PM edit delete reply
ahh wow. gonna second that person whos "been punched in the stomach" - this is pretty emotional for me to read
Guest 20th Apr 2017, 3:50 PM edit delete reply
lolas such a difficult read for me this page, its hard to tell whether theyre angry, surprised (at sugars parents and how they interact with her and eachother, at sugars ability to casually lie like that convincingly), just contemplating in general....... and maybe their feet just hurt lmao
bpdgoat 20th Apr 2017, 6:41 PM edit delete reply
i love pink ma
Guest 20th Apr 2017, 9:20 PM edit delete reply
holy crap, i feel like this page explains a lot. now i know why sugar is like a walking encyclopedia; because she had to study all that in college, for the phd. that makes so much sense now looking back at all the advice.

and also gives another reason for wanting to die; student loan debt... and just college in general is pretty shitty. and that if she cant even help herself, how could she help others [by being a doctor]?

(although maybe theres nothing to fix, nobodys perfect and ur great the way you are sugar. fictional character peptalk wooo)

man tho, if i was lola...if i didnt know about her[sugar] family before, i'd feel bitter as heck. that your parents care enough to even call you
Megaskizzen 20th Apr 2017, 10:06 PM edit delete reply
god damn if this page didn't hurt but i'm curious as to what humans are in this universe (unifurse?? nah)
Nobody 20th Apr 2017, 11:00 PM edit delete reply
Nobody
humans are... humans! the same thing they are in this universe. they're considered a certain species of furry like any other, essentially.
angel 20th Apr 2017, 10:58 PM edit delete reply
wow, big callback to the cover page. lola is even holding the water bottle.
Guest 21st Apr 2017, 12:39 PM edit delete reply
Ohhhh, Sugar is actually a postgrad, then. Jesus christ that makes a lot more sense, I'd want to die too after spending that much time in academia when you arguably didn't even want to be there to begin with.
noble 21st Apr 2017, 6:38 PM edit delete reply
maria's talk about video games being art + The Artistic Process reminded me of nofna i dont know if that was intentional but it gave me a little Laff
Jay 23rd Apr 2017, 7:00 AM edit delete reply
Been thinking about this page since it came up so I decided to write down some of my thoughts about it. First time commenting.

I want to compliment the creator(nobody?) for the excellent storytelling in this page. This phone call is a great device to show us more about Sugar's past and some of Lola's thoughts on Sugar's past.

I really like that we can only see what the parents are saying when the panels are focused on Sugar. I feel like Lola has made some assumptions about Sugar's relationship with her parents. I feel like maybe Lola doesn't see the potential abuse Sugar has suffered from her parents. Lola's abuse was obvious, horrible and blatant. Lola can only hear one side of this phonecall, and I bet to her this seems like a completely standard and healthy mom/kid phonecall, she probably is a bit envious of this call. Lola's mom would never call her to just check up one her, to just talk.

But the composition in this scene shows how misinformed Lola is. I love that in panels 20 and 21 Lola has her back to the speech bubble. She literally cannot see them, see can't see the full conversation and all it's implications. Her own experiences and desires cloud her interpretation of the convo, just like how her cigarette smoke literally covers the word bubbles.

I also liked the subtle way you showed Sugar's family dynamics. Jack seems to be the main negative influence there. Sugar talks down about her accomplishments, Jack talks down about her accomplishments. Jack has probably told her a phd isn't a real doctorate before. Jack immediately gives Sugar a hard time over an offhand comment. Jack doesn't say I love you. I also noticed that her other ma (who I cannot remember the name of, sorry!) sort of playfully scolds Jack for not letting Sugar talk but then she herself keeps interrupting Sugar? Sugar's voice isn't really important in this conversation, the constant mumbling implies she's used to just listening to her parents and only really talking when spoken to. She's not trusted to know herself (based off one of her parents calling her speaker phone fears irrational) so I can definitely see this picture of Sugar forming. Seems like one parent is neglectful to downright mean and the other other is involved, but in a kind of superficial way.

I don't know if any of that made sense or if it was what the creator intended, just wanted to write down my observations.